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Building 1st PC 2 sticks or 4? PC3200 or PC4000? Good MoBo?

Postby SorryOciffer » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:27 am

I just read I can use PC4000 in some MoBo's. I want to build my 1st PC and have just gotten a thermaltake Case, 2 Maxtor Diamondmax 200gig HD's and a dual layer +/- DVD writer.

Mostly an internet and gaming machine. Will use a 3800 SC CPU to start. Should I use the 3200 or 4000? If the 4000, what MoBo's support it? Overclocking, does one do better than the other?

Also, I heard that say, if I wanted 4 gig of RAM I would be better to do 2 sticks of 2gig than 4 sticks of 1 gig, then I read the opposite, what gives?

What are these "timing numbers" I keep reading about?

I want to build a good upgradeable foundation.

Suggestions? Bare in mind I am a newb to alot of this stuff so be gentle. :wink:

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Re: Building 1st PC 2 sticks or 4? PC3200 or PC4000? Good M

Postby sylvisj » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:47 am

I've had no problems with Maxtor drives, but others will tell you differently, so you may want to look into another brand, such as Western Digital.
As far as CPUs go, there have been huge price cuts on dualcore cpus (the X2 line), so you may want to look into those.
There are many mobos to choose from. Find one that you like the look/price of, post a link to it, and we'll let you know on pros/cons.
You'll want the 2sticks of 2gig. Filling up all the RAM slots with dualchannel tends to be a very bad idea with most motherboards. I've been running 1gig (2x 512) PC4000 on my MSI K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum for a very long time now and it's running nice.
Timing numbers for ram refer to a set of numbers (ex. 2-3-3-5 1t) that affect how 'fast' your ram is. You generally want lower numbers. The command rate (ex. 1t or 2t) has quite an impact on this, 1t is far better.
For upgrades, go socket AM2 with DDR2 RAM. Socket 939 is nearing the end of its life.
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Re: Building 1st PC 2 sticks or 4? PC3200 or PC4000? Good M

Postby SorryOciffer » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:13 pm

I appreciate the input. I already have the HDs, I got them for $40 each NIB last year and have had them sitting around.

Are the AM2 CPUs and MBs out yet? Are they the answer to INTELS Conroe? I have to admit, the reviews I have read on the CONROE in a couple of gaming magazines sound damn impressive, what does AMD have coming to counter it?

Is there a general MB forum here? I didn't see one and I want to keep my future posts on topic in the correct forum.

Thanks much,
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Re: Building 1st PC 2 sticks or 4? PC3200 or PC4000? Good M

Postby skrubol » Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:30 pm

2 sticks is definitely better than 4, especially when overclocking. Given the same RAM, at best you'll have to drop to 2t command rate which adds latency. At worst, the 4 sticks won't be able to run at the same speed, AND you'll have to run at 2t.
The problem with going to 2GB dimms is that they're hard to find, are more expensive, and are slower than 1G dimms. Overall, 2x2 should still get better performance than 4x1 though.
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