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Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:55 pm

http://blogs.amd.com/nigeldessau/2009/1 ... on-of-amd/

Yeah, probably not to the degree that you want and probably not as detailed because you know we hold most details back for launch. But this is the annual event where we tell the financial analysts all about our upcoming plans.

I have been spending a lot of time on Bulldozer lately, especially with my new job, so we will finally be able to have a conversation about *some* of the details.

I'll probably start another Q&A thread and maybe another blog based on your SERVER questions. Remember, I don't do clients.

It's going to be a very interesting 2010.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby hyc » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:20 pm

I wonder if the various anti-Intel lawsuits will be discussed... (OK, obviously they won't be at liberty to comment...)

At the moment my painpoint is in notebooks, the notebook I have is dying and there aren't any AMD-based notebooks with the complete set of features that I want. It feels to me like AMD's offerings are still being restrained in this space, and it's bugging the hell out of me that I can't buy what I want.

Aside from that, I'm always eager to see what's coming up in servers...
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby muziqaz » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:42 pm

spill the beans. We won't tell anyone :D How was the football the other week? I assume you are a liverpool fan, because who goes to watch fullham play? So i guess game was shit :D but if you were there just for the game of football, then game was very nice :)
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby MKruer » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:44 pm

I would pay good money. well maybe a few pennies. to see AMD come out with an ad like this about Intels tactics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDmF1O4cNM
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby muziqaz » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:46 pm

MKruer wrote:I would pay good money. well maybe a few pennies. to see AMD come out with an ad like this about Intels tactics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDmF1O4cNM
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby MKruer » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:49 pm

muziqaz wrote:
MKruer wrote:I would pay good money. well maybe a few pennies. to see AMD come out with an ad like this about Intels tactics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDmF1O4cNM
Fight the evil empire! :twisted:


hehe, memories...


its doubly pointant considering the 20th anniversary of the Berlin wall.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:30 am

muziqaz wrote:spill the beans. We won't tell anyone :D How was the football the other week? I assume you are a liverpool fan, because who goes to watch fullham play? So i guess game was shit :D but if you were there just for the game of football, then game was very nice :)


We were supporting fulham so it was a great game. Since I am german, I tend to be a Bayern fan ;)
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby muziqaz » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:36 am

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muziqaz wrote:spill the beans. We won't tell anyone :D How was the football the other week? I assume you are a liverpool fan, because who goes to watch Fulham play? So i guess game was shit :D but if you were there just for the game of football, then game was very nice :)


We were supporting Fulham so it was a great game. Since I am german, I tend to be a Bayern fan ;)


Fulham it is then :D
I tend to support their neighbours - chelsea(no not because it is owned by russian prick) :D
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby abinstein » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:50 am

JF-AMD wrote:http://blogs.amd.com/nigeldessau/2009/11/10/the-next-generation-of-amd/

Yeah, probably not to the degree that you want and probably not as detailed because you know we hold most details back for launch. But this is the annual event where we tell the financial analysts all about our upcoming plans.

Really can't wait to see it! :)

I have been spending a lot of time on Bulldozer lately, especially with my new job, so we will finally be able to have a conversation about *some* of the details.
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It's going to be a very interesting 2010.

Hmmm... isn't Bulldozer for 2011??? :?: :?:
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby muziqaz » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:54 am

abinstein wrote:Hmmm... isn't Bulldozer for 2011??? :?: :?:


shhhh, don't tell them, they might stick to this 'new' schedule and release it next year. :D I think JF meant, that next year will be exciting for them(AMD) because they will be getting 1st test chips from bulldozer and 32nm :)
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby BaronMatrix » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:16 am

hyc wrote:I wonder if the various anti-Intel lawsuits will be discussed... (OK, obviously they won't be at liberty to comment...)

At the moment my painpoint is in notebooks, the notebook I have is dying and there aren't any AMD-based notebooks with the complete set of features that I want. It feels to me like AMD's offerings are still being restrained in this space, and it's bugging the hell out of me that I can't buy what I want.

Aside from that, I'm always eager to see what's coming up in servers...



What are you looking for? There are plenty of Tigris notebooks around going from 14" to 18". The only thing I haven't seen is one with the enthusiast GPU (>4650).
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:09 am

abinstein wrote:
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It's going to be a very interesting 2010.

Hmmm... isn't Bulldozer for 2011??? :?: :?:



Doh!

My mistake. 2010 is G34 and C32. That is where the fun starts. They are the enablement platforms for bulldozer. It will drop into both sockets. Bulldozer is 2011. If you spend the last 2 weeks on the road, doing press interviews, sales training sessions and analyst calls things start to blur together.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby piesquared » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:09 am

Great thread JF, looking forward to new info! And there's something i was wondering about. Can you comment if there are any plans for using the HTX slot in the future? That name has been popping up a fair bit lately in the rumour mill, so got me curious about some kind of workstation card or something. :mrgreen:
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:25 am

Can't really comment on anyone's plans specifically. I know there are a few implementations out there, but for the most part, people are using PCI express gen 2 for high-bandwidth peripherals.

Outside of QDR Infiniband, nothing is really saturating the PCIe bus today on servers.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby MU_Engineer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:37 am

JF-AMD wrote:
We were supporting fulham so it was a great game. Since I am german, I tend to be a Bayern fan ;)


Yeah, we never would have guessed that you were German, with your last name being Fruehe :mrgreen:

Back on topic, it will be interesting to see what gets said on Analyst Day. I'll have to look at the PDFs since there is no way I'd be able to view the webcast live.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:41 am

Yeah, I have a full day of meetings tomorrow, so I won't really be able to begin answering questions until the evening.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby piesquared » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:06 am

Can you leak a couple slides?? :)
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby hyc » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:02 am

BaronMatrix wrote:
hyc wrote:I wonder if the various anti-Intel lawsuits will be discussed... (OK, obviously they won't be at liberty to comment...)

At the moment my painpoint is in notebooks, the notebook I have is dying and there aren't any AMD-based notebooks with the complete set of features that I want. It feels to me like AMD's offerings are still being restrained in this space, and it's bugging the hell out of me that I can't buy what I want.

Aside from that, I'm always eager to see what's coming up in servers...



What are you looking for? There are plenty of Tigris notebooks around going from 14" to 18". The only thing I haven't seen is one with the enthusiast GPU (>4650).


Something like a mobile workstation, equivalent to the Dell M4400. 15.4" WUXGA RGBLED screen, backlit keyboard, but using ATI graphics and AMD CPU. HP seems to be the only vendor with AMD pro-oriented notebooks, but their high end 85xx series is only Intel. Their AMD models are in their "budget" series 65xx, 64xx, and with significantly poorer features. I.e., they are still being consigned to the back-streets of the computing scene, just as Paul Otellini wanted...
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:09 pm

piesquared wrote:Can you leak a couple slides?? :)


I've grown accustomed to the taste of food and sleeping inside, so I will take a pass on that.
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Bulldozer supports DDR3 1866 and has 8MB of L3 cache

Postby vsary6968 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:30 pm

Bulldozer supports DDR3 1866 And has 8MB of L3 cache HERE IS THE LINK: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16373/1/

Yesterday we got some initial details about AMD's up-to-8-core Bulldozer CPU codenamed Zambezi and today we got additional details to fill in some gaps.

Zambezi is a 32nm CPU that comes in AM3r2 packaging and it will have 8MB of L3 cache. It is interesting to mention that it supports DDR3-1866, something that is yet to become a standard. At the same time Bulldozer comes in 2011, probably mid to late 2011, so the memory guys have plenty of time to prepare for the faster memory.

The chip also supports a new technology called APM Boost Technology and we suspect that this might be AMD’s answer to Intel’s turbo, but we're not sure about this.

Quad-core Deneb and six-core Thuban 45nm processors will have to hold their ground until Zambezi launches as part of the Scorpius platform, in 2011.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby Montaray Jack » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:51 pm

The webcast will be here:http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?p=irol-eventDetails&c=74093&eventID=2345413
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby BaronMatrix » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:21 pm

hyc wrote:
BaronMatrix wrote:
hyc wrote:I wonder if the various anti-Intel lawsuits will be discussed... (OK, obviously they won't be at liberty to comment...)

At the moment my painpoint is in notebooks, the notebook I have is dying and there aren't any AMD-based notebooks with the complete set of features that I want. It feels to me like AMD's offerings are still being restrained in this space, and it's bugging the hell out of me that I can't buy what I want.

Aside from that, I'm always eager to see what's coming up in servers...



What are you looking for? There are plenty of Tigris notebooks around going from 14" to 18". The only thing I haven't seen is one with the enthusiast GPU (>4650).


Something like a mobile workstation, equivalent to the Dell M4400. 15.4" WUXGA RGBLED screen, backlit keyboard, but using ATI graphics and AMD CPU. HP seems to be the only vendor with AMD pro-oriented notebooks, but their high end 85xx series is only Intel. Their AMD models are in their "budget" series 65xx, 64xx, and with significantly poorer features. I.e., they are still being consigned to the back-streets of the computing scene, just as Paul Otellini wanted...



I don't know. I spotted a DV7 HP at my local stroe with a 2.4GHz chip, 7200 HDD, and a 4530 GPU. It is true that most OEMs don't deck out AMD kits. I saw my first Phenom II with a GT295 and water on Newegg. That thing would be crazy fast. But then it seems that Intel is paying a lot of money to keep AMD in as few SKUs as possible. It's really a shame, especially considering that i7 9xx was a real ripoff compared to i5 7xx\8xx.

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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby piesquared » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:15 pm

JF-AMD wrote:
piesquared wrote:Can you leak a couple slides?? :)


I've grown accustomed to the taste of food and sleeping inside, so I will take a pass on that.



. yeah no doubt. Well I didn't mean leak them in a under the table sort of way though. Maybe leak was the wrong word. How about could you show us a couple approved slides then? :) At any rate, the point is moot since it will be starting in 15 mins!
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby JF-AMD » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:25 pm

Watch the presentations, then afterward I will answer questions within reason. Server questions or general technology questions. No desktop or client implementation because I don't know about those things.
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Re: Want to see our Roadmaps and Bulldozer Info?

Postby wuttz » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:51 pm

i'm watching the webcast right now! :mrgreen:
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