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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby mdk777 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:44 am

On Newegg now. :mrgreen:

Just ordered.

What the heck. The most I ever spent on a freaking Graphics card. but you only live once.
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby Zarck » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:57 am

Radeon 7970 on sale in France, and in stock, from 549 Euros.

http://www.topachat.com/pages/produits. ... 3DPRIXMAX=

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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby BonVivant » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:22 am

I just purchased a reference XFX. I will try to post before and after benches. Current card XFX 5850 reference; great card! The first time I haven't made a cost compromised buying decision; can't wait!
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby AussieFX » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:55 am

Welcome. :D

Let us know your thoughts when it arrives.

How much are you gentlemen paying?
Prices are pretty steep here @$700-750.

Good to see AMD charging premium prices for the very best tech again, but there is definitely some really heavy gouging going on. I suspect prices are 100-150$ too high here atm.
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby mdk777 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:50 pm

Paid the list price $550 here at launch from the EGG.
Reference Sapphire.

3 models in stock at the EGG this morning. So even though selling out often, more coming in on a limited basis.

I see newegg did raise the price $10, but that is just normal fluctuation (they like to be able to say they subsequently offer free shipping ($10) or have reduced the price ($10))

So price gouging is not bad yet. :wink:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby mdk777 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:28 pm

Good to see AMD charging premium prices for the very best tech again, but there is definitely some really heavy gouging going on. I suspect prices are 100-150$ too high here atm.


7950 is to launch in a few weeks at $450.

I suspect that it will be the better value. (and should bring all other prices down)

As you mentioned, the need for this much processing power is questionable. I put it in my son's gaming rig which only has a 1920x1080 screen. It is smooth and runs quite, but I am not really seeing that huge of an improvement in playability over the 6850 I pulled.

I think drivers and software utilization has further to go than I anticipated.

Oh well, live and learn. :mrgreen: :wink:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby Pietro sk » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:44 pm

Keep us posted about gpgpu 8)
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby erwincoumans » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:56 am

Pietro sk wrote:Keep us posted about gpgpu 8)


You might want to run this work-in-progress GPGPU OpenCL rigid body simulation under Windows:

https://github.com/erwincoumans/experiments/downloads

It runs entirely on GPU and it requires a recent Radeon card. You can see the timings in the console.
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby AussieFX » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:55 am

Welcome to the zone.

Thanks for posting.
Will it run on 6970's or does it need GCN?
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby AussieFX » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:58 am

mdk777 wrote:
Good to see AMD charging premium prices for the very best tech again, but there is definitely some really heavy gouging going on. I suspect prices are 100-150$ too high here atm.


7950 is to launch in a few weeks at $450.

I suspect that it will be the better value. (and should bring all other prices down)

As you mentioned, the need for this much processing power is questionable. I put it in my son's gaming rig which only has a 1920x1080 screen. It is smooth and runs quite, but I am not really seeing that huge of an improvement in playability over the 6850 I pulled.

I think drivers and software utilization has further to go than I anticipated.

Oh well, live and learn. :mrgreen: :wink:
I just recommended some parts for a mate and he went with an FX8120 6970 combo.
$750 is just too much to justify considering a GTX580 3Gb is under $600.

Here's the pricelist for Aus.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai ... h=193_1309

Considering our dollar is higher than the USD then it's a ripoff.
AMD aren't getting that extra $200 either, that goes straight to the shop. :roll:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby erwincoumans » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:54 pm

AussieFX wrote:Welcome to the zone.

Thanks for posting.
Will it run on 6970's or does it need GCN?


The rigid body GPU test should run on redwood, cypress, cayman and tahiti cards (nvidia, intel ivy bridge support comes later)
It will become part of the open source Bullet physics library.

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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby mdk777 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:09 am

runs well...pile of blocks waterfalls off table...

stats are rather detailed...any particular number you would be interested in having reported? :wink:

(runs in a window, can't cut and paste the entire log..)
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby mdk777 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:07 am

Thanks Chris Tom for heads up on new drivers.:

http://www.amdzone.com/joomla/index.php ... &Itemid=75

Do seem to be improving. :wink:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby AussieFX » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:22 am

LOL at [H] for bashing AMD over their drivers.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/01/ ... unity_lost

Like Nvidia has profiles for all their cards on release day?
Like Nvidia don't have driver issues.

I actually moved to ATi after buying 2x 8800GTX's and after 6 months not being able to run them in SLI AT ALL!

Driver problems are when they CTD or simply refuse to display. Getting 60fps instead of 300fps is taking things waaay overboard.

And people who buy 2 or 3 cards on launch day need their oxygen supply terminated. :lol:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby Pietro sk » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:18 pm

AussieFX wrote:LOL at [H] for bashing AMD over their drivers.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/01/ ... unity_lost

Like Nvidia don't have driver issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby Pietro sk » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:28 am

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/index.php? ... eturnid=17
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High demand for FC7970 water blocks - 23/01/2012
Due to enormous demand a shortage of EK-FC7970 series water blocks is occuring. We ask our customers to be patient. We manufacture, assemble and ship these water blocks on daily basis. We are doing everything we can to keep delays to a minimum.

The shortage problem will be solved in the next two weeks.

Thank you for understanding.
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby MKruer » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:16 pm

Pietro sk wrote:http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=124&cntnt01origid=28&cntnt01returnid=17
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High demand for FC7970 water blocks - 23/01/2012
Due to enormous demand a shortage of EK-FC7970 series water blocks is occuring. We ask our customers to be patient. We manufacture, assemble and ship these water blocks on daily basis. We are doing everything we can to keep delays to a minimum.

The shortage problem will be solved in the next two weeks.

Thank you for understanding.
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+1,3 gigglehurtz is no problem

And it wont suck 1.21 Jiggawatts either :mrgreen:
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Re: Radeon 7970?

Postby Pietro sk » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:20 am

MKruer wrote:And it wont suck 1.21 Jiggawatts either :mrgreen:

You are confusing Radeon with GTX480 Image


:lol: watch this
    Today's AMD Radeon 7950 release saw the embargo lifted on a funny little saga which you can read about here. But another hell-on-earth yarn from the rumour mill is even more interesting. TechEye has heard Nvidia has been asking hacks why the reviews have been so good.
    Nvidia absolutely denies the rumour which suggests representatives have been asking journalists to file a short report on what is exactly so great about the 7950. Whether or not Nvidia is canvassing reviewers, there may be reasons the Green Goblin would like hacks to do its homework for it.

    More industry whispers suggest the reason Nvidia's upcoming hope, the GK104, is late to the table is all the redesigns it has had to go through. Parts on the 32nm had to be redesigned for 28nm, but along the way there were challenges with packaging and interconnects. Some industry watchers suggest that Nvidia gave up a lot of space on its chip, trying to buff up Kepler by bringing Ageia to the hardware.
    But the murmurs suggest Nvidia has been dedicating a lot of resources to get physics and fluid dynamics operating properly, which has so far, allegedly, taken half of its gaming engineers and six months to get right.
    One industry watcher said to TechEye the company is in "holy s**t" mode - having been confident that the GK104 would fight off and trounce the competition, but the timing is out of whack. When Nvidia does get its high-end Kepler chip out in the second half of the year, the competition is going to be ready with something else.
    There are no doubts that full fluid dynamics is going to wow the crowds - on demos specifically catering to fluid dynamics. Writing code for games to get the performance right, though, is trickier. While Nvidia's team is working overtime, its rivals just may be able to clean up.
    "Their SDK is great," someone familiar with the matter said to TechEye. "But it was foolish of them to try putting Ageia hardware onto a GPU. The amount of engineering work you have to do to make that useful in games - you get one game every six months that gives you the benefits of that."


    Read more: http://news.techeye.net/chips/nvidias-k ... z1l7VzFF6f
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